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Part 1: Fourth Wing: A Deep Dive into the Plot, Characters, and Themes

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Part 1: The Fourth Wing: A Deep Dive into the Plot, Characters, and Themes

 U1 

 0:00 

 I am with bookish McGeen. She's a awesome bookstagrammer. We recently did a podcast episode about broken bonds and I invited her again and we are going over the Phenomena of Force Wing by Rebecca Yaros. I was surprised about how explosive this book is on bookstagram. When you go on goodreads. It's one of those rare moments, too, where there's like 87,000 reviews and it's 4.7 average stars. 

 U2 

 0:35 

 Wow, that's a lot of reviews. 

 U1 

 0:37 

 Yeah, a lot. Good 

 U2 

 0:40 

 for her. Good for Entangled. That's good. I know 1s from what I did my research, she does a lot of romance books and this is her first fantasy book. 

 U1 

 0:53 

 She 

 U2 

 0:53 

 did it. She did that thing. She did it. 

 U1 

 0:57 

 So I wanted to ask because I jumped at the train, I just like, okay, I'll just do it because it's fantasy, fantasy romance. So I'm all about that. What brought you to this book specifically? 

 U2 

 1:10 

 Well, I'll be honest with you. I actually got approved for the arc, the audio arc? 1s Yeah. So I started it and I was about 9% in and I was like, okay, because it's the beginning of the book, I'm like, okay, I got a feel for this. At the time, I was starting to enter into my I don't know, I guess maybe summer rom.com. I was kind of like deep in that. So it's like, okay, I get what this is going to be and I'm excited to try it out. I'll come back to it, right? And then next thing I'm seeing it everywhere and I'm like, okay, I got to give myself a little bit of space because now there's a lot of expectation and a lot of hype in this book. 1s And if I go in sometimes with that expectation, it's harder for me to just enjoy the book. And it's more like, well, this is it. I gave myself a little bit of space and then finally did read it or listened to it. And I did not stop. 2s Literally, I kept listening to it the whole entire time. I didn't put it back down. So I went from 9% to just finishing it. It was really good. Like, it was so well edited. Like, the first thing that I I was like, thinking about while I was reading this book is how how the editor just, like, killed it. Because there is nothing wasted in this book. There is no info dumps. There is no exhaustive world building. There is world building in it. And I like, world building. But they managed to make it seamless. It wasn't like, okay, this is going to be a couple of chapters about stuff that I'm going to have to really focus on to make sure I understand things later. It was like, no. 1s Just seamless. It just goes right into it. I was super impressed. I'll tell you one thing, this has my heart racing. I was pacing at points with this book. 1s I'm a fan. It deserves all the 

 U1 

 3:12 

 hype, right? And I think it kind of did. Like, what we felt like was really good with Broken Bonds was it wasn't an info dump. You had to trudge through 100 pages before you can actually get into anything you learned as you went about this world. And it was enough to feed the story, but not too much, where you're like, oh, crud, I got to remember all this. It was organic, I think. Very organic. I think that's a side note why people struggle with House of Earth and Blood, because the first hundred pages is so intense with detail and world building and trudging that a lot of people can't finish that book. So I think this was done really well in that aspect. 

 U2 

 3:56 

 That's one of my favorite books that you mentioned. And I have to tell you that I think I picked it up three times before I actually got it. And it was because all that freaking world building. And I was like I was on the precipice of passing all that. But I restarted it each time I picked it up because it had been too long. And it's definitely well worth it. 

 U1 

 4:24 

 I'm still in that book slump. I'm, like, so afraid to read the second book. 

 U2 

 4:29 

 Well, you ever read the second book? 1s Yeah. So we'll do that buddy read later. 

 U1 

 4:36 

 We got a list of buddy 

 U2 

 4:37 

 reads, 1s but fourth wing. And look. Look what I have. You can't see this podcast people, but I have a copy. I actually bought and found a copy, 

 U1 

 4:51 

 and people are going to hate me. I actually have two copies. 

 U2 

 4:55 

 Do you have separate, like, different copies from different places? 

 U1 

 4:58 

 Yeah, two different places. So I bought it from Amazon, and they kept pushing the date back and back and back until it was like, end of June. And I was like, holy crap. I'm not going to get this special 

 U2 

 5:12 

 edition copy. I want this copy. I never wanted 

 U1 

 5:14 

 a copy so bad in my life. I just like, I love sprayed edges, but I can go without it, right? And I freaked out. So I drove 40 minutes to the bookstore before I called. I called and saved that copy for me. They had two copies left. I went to the bookstore 40 minutes, drove back, and the next day, Amazon sent me the book. 

 U2 

 5:34 

 Isn't that always the way? 2s It was funny. I put on my Instagram that I was looking for a copy because I had had the audio. So I was like, okay, well, if I really enjoy this, I'll go pick up the book. And then I saw it everywhere, so I didn't think that it was going to be in an issue. And I learned that only the first editions were going to have. The sprayed edges. And I was like, okay, well, I should pick it up pretty soon. Then when I went to the store, it was like not there. I looked online, not there. And I was like, okay, well I'm going to miss it. 2s I could risk it order on Amazon. But it's saying it's estimated in July, which probably means it's not the first edition, 

 U1 

 6:19 

 it's the regular copy. Yeah. 

 U2 

 6:20 

 Then I had someone message me who's American but in another country right now. And she was like, I could send it to you. You can just have my copy because she's moving. And so she's like, I can't take all my books with me. So I'm trying to share the love. And I was like, yes. Then I was out and about. I randomly happened upon the last one in the weirdest way ever. 2s I just have one copy because I reached out to her and I was like, someone else can take that copy. And I appreciate you, but I've got it now. I don't have to wait two weeks. 2s So 

 U1 

 6:59 

 interesting fact. I found this out and it says it on Amazon that the special editions is only going to be available for preorder for the second 

 U2 

 7:07 

 book. I already preordered. I preordered it immediately. Immediately. I finished it and I was like, okay, where's this preorder? I'm not going to miss out this time. We're not going to play around. 1s But I will tell you this book. I don't even know how to describe this book because I was reading it. And I'm pretty like I update all my stories when I read my book, basically. Especially if it's a really good one. If it's a really good one that in some way has got me and I need to talk about it. I'll go on to my stories. And I had an author reach out to me who is apparently friends with this author. And she was like, when you get towards the last few chapters, she's like, I can't remember where it starts, but like the last few ish start videoing your reaction. And I was like, she wanted to see them. She was like I was like, okay. So that tells me stuff is going to go down. Like there's going to be some possible heartbreak in this, right? That's what my worry was. That one of these dragons was going to die or get injured. 

 U1 

 8:14 

 I was waiting for it. And there's a particular dragon in particular. It's like this is probably a podcast. I probably don't want to give too much spoilers with it just because of the fact that there's a lot of people who are still reading this. And I don't want to ruin it. You would think a lot of things that were going to happen didn't happen. But something else totally happens. And it shocked the crud out of you. I think that's what really is great about it. Because I don't always have to be intensely impressed because there's so much out there, but it's always nice to get a book that you're just like, yes, 

 U2 

 8:49 

 I am hugely impressed with this because so we're not doing spoilers, right? Like, just to clarify and keep you spoiler free. 

 U1 

 8:55 

 Yeah, we'll talk some details. But, you know, some of the details that. Like that is like the spoilers of all spoilers. So the book 

 U2 

 9:03 

 ends in such a way that you're like, oh, DA DA DA. 

 U1 

 9:07 

 Right? Right. 

 U2 

 9:08 

 It's something that I feel like everyone would see coming, you know what I mean? But because we were just reeling from the intense battle situation that we just like chapters long of this intense, I'm worried something's going to happen. I'm just crying because I foresee things happening kind of situation. My brain couldn't snap and couldn't I was still reeling. I couldn't snap back into regular mode. I was still trying to process and come down from everything. So when a certain line was like, I'm just going to say this line, it was like, we need to bring her to him. I had no idea what was going to happen or who this I had no theories. Right, right. My brain was just so busy processing everything that had just happened and trying to calm down from the pacing that I was doing 1s that when it happened, I was completely blown away. The author did it in such a way that I was so busy over here that I couldn't process what was coming. I didn't even think to try to figure out what was coming next because my mind was so scrambled. And I was super impressed by that because it's something that I feel like we all kind of should have seen coming. It was clear. It was set up in the beginning. And I was just too that battle so good. It was just so good. I don't even know. Emotionally distraught, I guess. 3s That's what I love when authors actually do this. They build your side characters so well that if something, anything were to happen, you're angry, you're upset, you're sad, you feel for them. And I love it when you're built emotionally inside characters as well. In the dragons, she gave the dragons such a great personality. They're written to be these majestic beings, 

 U1 

 11:02 

 but they're almost human. They think they have the opinions and all this stuff. So you're rooting for them as well. 

 U2 

 11:11 

 Yeah, they're better than humans. They're dragon. 1s And here's the thing. Going into this book, I knew that there was supposed to be dragons, but I have read other books that use dragons as like a marketing ploy to get you in and you don't actually see any dragons. You might hear about them fairly. Yeah. And then maybe in the second or third book, you get dragons. Right. 

 U1 

 11:34 

 So when we meet the dragons fairly early on, I feel like I was laughing. I was laughing out loud because the personality of this dragon and the sense of humor of this dragon was so hilarious. I have a few of the just like, opening lines, like when he was like, you're bleeding, stop it. 1s Because. We can just stop. 2s And he's like, you're making us look bad. And you will trust me thing. 1s I immediately was like, this dragon is my boy. We're cool. I will fight for this dragon at this point. Right? The other dragon, I can't remember the names. I don't have them down. 2s You meet her and you immediately love her. She's my favorite character in this whole book. I know. 

 U2 

 12:27 

 She's my favorite character in the whole book. 

 U1 

 12:30 

 I am very curious about how this dragon is going to play in the rest of the story 

 U2 

 12:35 

 because I have theories. 

 U1 

 12:37 

 Yeah, I have theories too. Yeah. I thought that dragon was going to be wiped out by the end of the book, and that was the reveal. Me too. Me too. 100%. I was crying whenever she came into the last battle. I was like, no, she's going to 

 U2 

 12:50 

 ignore I started crying and I was like, I swear, if this dragon I hate this book. If this dragon dies, 

 U1 

 12:58 

 it's actually not, but we'll see what that golden dragon plays a part in the rest of the story 

 U2 

 13:04 

 doing. Spoilers. Can I say something? Yeah. Okay. So at the end, since she's like a bigger dragon now, I feel like that's a worry for me that one of the dragons may not make it out of the next book or the third book or something. Because now she's got two fully grown dragons that she can ride and use. And I feel like if one of them dies and the other one's still alive, she'll still live. You know what I 

 U1 

 13:28 

 mean? I swear. I think Rebecca, she's ready to tear our hearts out. Yeah, I know she will. 

 U2 

 13:34 

 Or she's playing with us. 

 U1 

 13:36 

 She's playing with us because basically in this world, if you bond with a dragon and that dragon dies, the human is not guaranteed to survive. The dragon will live on. If the human dies, it's not the other way around. So I am curious about once if something were to happen to either or what would happen to her. I think as 

 U2 

 13:55 

 long as one of them is alive, she's going to be fine. I think that's going to be the survival. Yeah, I think that's going to be the like, oh, no, what's going to happen? 1s But I don't want it to happen. I want both of these dragons to survive. And I don't think it's going to be the younger one. I think it'll end up being the other one. That what's his name, too. Why don't I know any of these names? The other dragon, the Grumpy dragon that I love. 

 U1 

 14:20 

 Right. He's got a hard name. He's got it for sure. 

 U2 

 14:22 

 Hard. I feel like he might be the one that bites it, but I don't want him to. And I will be real mad if it happens. I want it to be a happily ever after where all the dragons make it. And that's just how I feel. 

 U1 

 14:36 

 Oh, it's. andrana is the golden dragon 1s for the black dragon. 

 U2 

 14:42 

 Okay. All right, so I got those mixed up. Yeah, same here. Okay, so to pace back a little bit, just to share something with you I thought was really awesome was that Violet did have a physical illness, basically, and if you're familiar with the author. The author has Eds, which is Eller Stanlos, which resonates with me because I have Eller Stanlos, too. So when I was first reading the book, I didn't know I didn't know anything about this background. And I was like, hey, hold on, that sounds familiar. That sounds familiar. So I did this random search about this, and apparently it's represented in this book with the main character. And I'm very proud of that because Eller Stanley, I think a lot more people have it, but it's not diagnosed properly with a lot of people. So it's awesome to see that, to finally see something like that, because Eller Stanley is just not ever talked about. Yeah. 

 U1 

 15:39 

 So I love that. 

 U2 

 15:41 

 Yeah, that's really awesome. That representation. That's definitely something that you don't see. I don't think I've ever seen anything like 

 U1 

 15:49 

 that 

 U2 

 15:50 

 in a book. It's usually like, you you'll see other things, like autism and stuff like that. It's starting to become more prevalent in, like, rom coms. Right. In the fantasy world, you generally don't see 

 U1 

 16:01 

 really they don't have 

 U2 

 16:02 

 representation at all. Yeah, right. 

 U1 

 16:05 

 Really resonated with me because Violet, even though she was considered weak, fragile, easily broken, she kept going, kept pushing, and I felt like that was super important message that I grew up with, that even though I grew up with it, I was never told to just let that hinder me, to keep pushing the boundaries and everything. So I felt like that was so strongly represented and just want to give cheers to Rebecca for being brave, to talk about it in the book and bring awareness. 

 U2 

 16:33 

 Yeah, that's amazing. 

 U1 

 16:34 

 Yeah. And then Violet, I kind of like Violet in a way. A lot of people talk about. There's like, Trope upon trope in this book. 

 U2 

 16:46 

 I love Tropes. 

 U1 

 16:50 

 I think I like seeing her journey throughout the book, learning to grow stronger in her fighting abilities, learning to hone her powers, learn her abilities and things like that, and then managing her expectations of her mother, which is the general of the quadrant of the dragons and everything. So it was interesting to see. What is your thoughts about Violet? About, wow. Hopefully no one hates me. Xander 

 U2 

 17:15 

 so, Violet, I pretty much liked her instantly, and I will say, what is her friend's name? Dane. Dane. Okay. There we go. I know the beginning of the words. For some reason, I didn't even read the book. I listened to it. You think you see the opposite. 

 U1 

 17:33 

 Yeah. So 

 U2 

 17:35 

 Dane pretty much I didn't like him from the get go. I just was like, oh, I see your issue. I see your issue pretty immediately. That's not going to work. I 

 U1 

 17:43 

 knew I couldn't trust him at first. I just knew something was going to be up with him the very beginning. 

 U2 

 17:49 

 I just didn't like his selfishness and his lack of belief in 

 U1 

 17:52 

 her. 

 U2 

 17:54 

 The support court just was not there. And I was like, you're not a friend, bro. You're like you want. To hit it and quit it. You know what I mean? You're not actually a friend. I didn't care much for Dane Xander or what is his name? 

 U1 

 18:08 

 Xanden xander Xanden 

 U2 

 18:10 

 Zandin. I'm probably pronouncing that incorrectly. And everyone 

 U1 

 18:14 

 there's no punctuation, guys. 

 U2 

 18:17 

 Which is so crazy because in the book, I'm telling you, this book is gorgeous. These maps and everything that they put in here are absolutely stunning. And it's so crazy that they didn't put pronunciation in here. 

 U1 

 18:34 

 I think it could have really benefited off of 

 U2 

 18:36 

 that. But anyway, 

 U1 

 18:38 

 yeah, fantasy is historically, like, you can say it one way this whole time, and it's totally pronounced a different way. 

 U2 

 18:44 

 Yeah. What is it? Like Reese resand ryson. Like, all those 

 U1 

 18:50 

 ryse in my heart, 

 U2 

 18:53 

 but I liked him, you know that he's going to be the guy who the love interest. Yeah, the guy who seems bad. And he does seem bad. Yeah. Honestly, I think at one point doesn't he murder someone? Doesn't he, during training, just like, straight up break someone's neck. I was like, no, 

 U1 

 19:11 

 that was a teacher who did that. Okay, that was a teacher. 2s But it was pretty obvious to me early on that while he was saying he wants to kill Violet, he had the opportunity to do things and wasn't. So I was like, all right, I'm interested to learn more the dragon situation with I don't know how spoilery we want to get. So this is just a preface. The two dragons, how her dragon and his dragon are, I guess, mated. I really 

 U2 

 19:40 

 loved that. And I loved that they have, like, a frenzy and that he was very like, you're going to make mistakes during the frenzy. Let's fix this right now. 1s Let's try to make this be not a mistake. Let's avoid what I went through. 1s Well, 

 U1 

 20:00 

 okay, I will say this. This is a little bit of my pet peeve. Just a little one, right? It's when they finally get together and you're like, thank goodness, and he's like, I've always loved you since the parapet. And I'm like, didn't you guys just feel like you guys were mortal enemies just because of your guys'background and all this stuff? And now he's like, I loved you since then. And I'm like, did you, though? Did you? I think maybe he loved her and just only now realized that that's what it was. 3s It was like a sappy romcom moment. Like, I first moment laid eyes on you. I fell in love with you, and I'm just like, I love you romcom, though. And I was in my rom.com error when I read this. I probably was, like, eating it with a spoon. 3s How would you describe the world building in this book in particular? You said it was well to. Developed and everything. What was your favorite part about it? You said that dragons was introduced and it was really introduced well. And I'm like I agree because I haven't read a dragon book this good since Aragon by Christopher Poloni. And like you said, they introduce it just to get you hooked, and they're hardly mentioned yes, I agree with that. It's a very strong point of this book, and I loved it. What would you describe in the world building in this book with the magic, with the school? In terms of worldbuilding, it didn't feel like heavy worldbuilding, but it was 2s I don't really know how to put it in. Someone who doesn't like worldbuilding will still love this book and not even realize it's happening. It was kind of like effortless. This is the world we live in. It's coming up organically during the story about certain things and how it works, there wasn't any paragraphs where it was just like, let me give you all this history so this one sentence will make sense. I don't know how any other way to say it except you were just kind of like transported there. It was like you were just going along with the characters, and it was no big deal. In terms of the dragons. The dragons are characters in this book. They are important, like, side characters in this book. They're developed, and I only want to get to know them more. Right. And there's a lot of untapped. She definitely did that. You know how they say just show them, like, the iceberg and have a lot underneath. In terms of writing, she definitely did that with the dragon specifically. So we do have some story on a little bit of them. But it's very clear that even the school and even humans in general don't really know the dragon's culture. A lot of it is specific to being a writer. Yeah, humans don't need to know this, you know what I mean? And not even my writer needs to know this always. But very quickly, her dragons trust her with things that are like, humans don't matter. It's going to be my dragon being like my dragon committee that decides if this is sticking or not. Humans can just suck it. But he's very quick to just kind of kind of tell her how things are. And I think he even flip a couple of things that people aren't supposed to know. I do find it weird, though, and maybe I'm misremembering, but the way that they know that this dragon is hers is by knowing the real name. And the only people that are supposed to know it is supposed to be her and like, the person she gives the name to. But it's very clear that other people knew this dragon's name. At least for me, it felt like it was 1s I didn't understand that. Maybe I just missed it and they called him something else. But it seemed that seemed like the only thing that kind of rubbed me the wrong way. It was kind of like. How how does that make sense? Because it sounds as if everyone kind of knows these dragons names in general, but I may have to go through and reread to verify. 1s Right, I get what you're saying now, because there's, like, their dragon's true name that only the writer knows, but then they have to kind of, like, put it tell the scribe or something like that to record who this dragon belongs to. So, yeah, that is a part that's a little glossed over a little bit. So what do they do with that information other than, like, hey, this dragon belongs to this person? If this name is so closely guarded, why would you put it on something that could be accessible to a lot 

 U2 

 24:40 

 of people? I don't know. It just seemed OD. Not OD, but it just seemed like something that wasn't really gone into and seems like, very easily FID. And maybe in one of the next ones, we'll get to see someone fibbing about knowing a driver. But anyway, so that was for me, the world building was great. I think we've only scratched it, which may also be why the world building was so seamless, because there wasn't a ton. But really, she's made, like, a completely different world. And what I really found interesting is the author said that she's able to create whatever world she wants. Right. So she's created a world where Violet isn't considered weak because she's female. There are female generals that are female. 1s There's no sexism. 

 U1 

 25:26 

 Right. Which is great. 

 U2 

 25:28 

 Yeah. Or violence against women in the book because they're women, 

 U1 

 25:32 

 or they have a tragic past that moves them forward. And I think I remember reading for one person that people are getting tired that the whole motivation of the female main character is doing, is because they have a tragic past that a man did to them or something like that. This is not the case. She's just trying to live life here and manage family expectations. Yeah. And just the struggle of her every day. You know what I mean? And 1s she may doubt herself, but she doesn't have a lot of really negative self talk, 

 U2 

 26:05 

 which I like. And you usually see that a lot with your feminine, 

 U1 

 26:09 

 I can't do it and I'm weak, and instead, she's always challenging the narrative. 

 U2 

 26:16 

 Yeah. How do I do this? How can I do this? You know 

 U1 

 26:19 

 what I mean? I know you think I'm fragile, but 2s she's accepted her state of where she is physically, but she's, like, choosing to not let it define her as a person. I think that's what's really cool about female strength is being portrayed in a book like this, because sometimes if they're having a pity party or if they're having this negative self talk about themselves. One book we've read, broken Bonds was the cattiness between women. That's annoying. She acknowledged cattiness, but she wasn't, like, dwelling on it too long. She's like, I got to focus on surviving. I got to focus on getting better. I'm focusing on I want a dragon. It wasn't even. Out proving her mom wrong either. It was just proven herself that she can do it. And that's what I love because it's all about the inner monologue of how you're moving yourself forward, how you're telling yourself you can do it. And I think that's powerful because she really didn't need Xander telling her she can do 

 U2 

 27:18 

 it. And honestly, I don't know that I can't remember. Yeah, even like when she was trying to this is a little bit of a spoiler for just a heads up. Even when she was in a position to have to stand up for someone who seemingly was 

 U1 

 27:38 

 going to get 

 U2 

 27:40 

 murdered, killed. We'll say that it was the dragon, 4s that scene. 2s So when that happened, he just kind of watched it and he did do a little something, but it was very much like 1s he's concerned, but he was impressed and he didn't sit there and I don't know, 2s it was a good relationship between the two. I didn't feel like 1s it was that, let me teach you all the ways and 1s let me make you a better person. Like some man coming in to do it. She kind of already had everything she needed. Now, he did help her do a couple of things like the frenzy, blocking out the frenzy and stuff, but it didn't feel like that wasn't something that she was capable of on her own. He just kind of was like, you've never done this, so let me show you 

 U1 

 28:41 

 how she was. Yeah, she wasn't taught and I guess in that rule, when you get your powers, you're supposed to channel it. I guess to be able to get in those classes, you got to channel it first or reveal your powers. And so he was like, you haven't done this yet. She's like, well, if they just let me in those classes, I would be ready for it. 

 U2 

 29:01 

 Yeah, exactly. 2s It's not that I'm not capable, it's just that I haven't been given the opportunity. But yeah, I liked Violet a lot. I will say that my favorite characters in the book are the dragons with a secondary of I really like Violet, but the dragons are my favorite. 

 U1 

 29:23 

 I don't know, just because it's typical fantasy, I was kind of expecting one of Violet's closer friends to be the one to backstab and portray her. Maybe it will happen in the future, but it didn't happen that way. So that was kind of good 

 U2 

 29:41 

 though, didn't he? 

 U1 

 29:43 

 Okay, maybe I'm thinking it's Rihanna or Rihanna is the one. I thought she was going to backstab her. Okay. And then the one other friend I did see coming, just because of his abilities, I saw that one coming. I didn't see too. The extent he went from like, I want to protect you, 

 U2 

 30:03 

 I love you, but we can't be together. Oh, my God. To good luck. 2s Do you boo. You about to die. What a jerk. Right? 

 U1 

 30:17 

 And it just sucks because I'm like, man, that would be like my first question would be like, how long have you been doing that? Yeah, I was watching this review, which I have to send you. She was kind of like, I enjoy this book, but there's some kind of things about this plot and everything that just did not make sense. It didn't make sense that she got viola got really upset with Xander over him lying, per se, but she didn't really get upset about Dane and what he did. 

 U2 

 30:43 

 Doesn't that all come out towards the very end? So we don't really see her reaction to Dane because she hasn't seen Dane yet. You know what I mean? Right. 

 U1 

 30:52 

 It's true. 1s I guess she was just maybe it was like one of the situations where she was angry about one thing, but she was projecting on another person because that's the person that she's currently angry with, 

 U2 

 31:04 

 the person in front of her. 1s I think when she sees Dane, that might change, but I think that a lot happened at the end of the book. So I give her a little bit of a break with not being met at Dane yet because I think it's coming. I think 

 U1 

 31:20 

 it'll come. Yeah, I think the confrontation is coming. We'll see. Well, thank you for listening to my podcast. Follow me on Instagram for more updates and to participate in future polls. And if you have a moment, please consider leaving a review on your favorite podcast platform. Your opinion is valuable to me, so thank you again for supporting me and happy reading. 



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